Posts in the "European History" Category

History 5 is the UC Berkeley undergraduate survey course of European history from the Renaissance to the present. I took this course as an undergraduate at Cal, and I’m a Graduate Student Instructor (GSI) for it in the Fall 2007 semester. These are posts that relate to cultural and social issues in contemporary and historical Europe. Most of them relate specifically to topics or themes covered by Professor Laqueur in his History 5 lectures and podcasts.

French Revolution in 21st Century Politics

Historian Francois Furstenberg compares the Bush presidency to the French Revolutionary period in The New York Times (“Bush’s Dangerous Liaisons”). Regardless of the political implications I think it is noteworthy the way that the French Revolution continues to be a lens through which contemporary politics and political clashes are understood.

Much as George W. Bush’s presidency was ineluctably shaped by Sept. 11, 2001, so the outbreak of the French Revolution was symbolized by the events of one fateful day, July 14, 1789. And though 18th-century France may seem impossibly distant to contemporary Americans, future historians examining Mr. Bush’s presidency within the longer sweep of political and intellectual history may find the French Revolution useful in understanding his curious brand of 21st- century conservatism.

Among the many carry-overs of the French Revolution that Furstenberg mentions is the original usage of the word “terrorist.”

A terroriste was, in its original meaning, a Jacobin leader who ruled France during la Terreur.

JBS Issue on Religion in Britain

The current issue of the Journal of British Studies focuses on religion in Britain, “from the medieval to the modern periods.” The topic seems very timely and relevant to contemporary political and social issues. Unfotunately the editor notes that they did not receive submissions on Islam or Muslims in time for inclusion in this issue, but several articles on Islam are promised for a future issue.

In the editor’s introduction, Anna Clark mentions Callum Brown’s Death of Christian Britain. When I read this book a few years ago I was impressed by the way that Brown tried to pinpoint by several different measures when Christianity peaked and began to decline in Britain. Brown gave quite a bit of quantitative evidence in the form of Sunday School attendance and other measures of religiosity in order to precisely answer the question. Although any attempt to measure something that is ultimately a matter of personal sentiment and conscience (Sunday School attendance, for instance, just because people were attending more, does that mean they were there because they were religious or for other reasons) is going to be somewhat difficult, I appreciated the way that Brown assembled statistics.

Clark mentions Brown’s overall argument that religion remained relatively strong in Britain until the 1960s and only then began its decline (which challenges the more conventional belief in a longer, and less precipitous, decline commensing in the 19th century). She describes the way that Brown’s work, although controversial and open to criticism, sparked a new debate about religion in Britain. The current JBS issue contributes to that conversation.

Three major themes emerge in this special issue on religion. First, British religion should be put in the context of developments on the continent. Second, the relationship of religion to the state remains an important theme. How much power and motivation did state authorities have to control religious ideas? How did religion define national identity? How did denominations outside the Church of England react to and interact with state power? Third, religious discourses can be studied as material texts, as scholars examine how they are produced, modified, censored, read, and shared.

The complete article by Anna Clark, “Editor’s Introduction”

The “Front Line” in Europe

Timothy Ash writes in the Los Angeles Times that Europe is “a front line in the war on terror,” a point which others have made in the context of discussions about the new multicultural nature of the continent with its increasing population of foreign-born residents as well as increasing numbers of Muslims.

How large of an impact immigration and the changing religious makeup of Europe will have in the long term is a subject of much debate. What I find most interesting about the discussion is the way that boundaries and lines of demarcation are so much about creating a sense of Europe and a European identity. Everything from the present day debate about Turkey’s entry into the European Union to the Federal Republic of Germany’s Chancellor Adenauer’s famous comment that “Asia begins at the Elbe” to the history of the Ottomans at the gates of Vienna to the turning back of the Moors at the Pyrannes has been about the boundaries of Europe.

I wonder if part of what makes the present day immigration patterns seem distinct from influxes into Europe in the past is that because of jet and train travel possibilities the flows of immigrants and immigrant communities are not geographically continguous.

Ash’s article does not reflect too much on the meaning of boundaries, rather, his point is that Europe is on the front line of dealing with radical Islam and that the continent does not seem to be aware of its position.

To return from the United States to Europe is to travel from a country that thinks it is on the front line of the struggle against jihadist terrorism but is not, to a continent that is on the front line but still has not fully awoken to the fact.

Only a fool would rule out the possibility of another terrorist assault on what is now styled the American homeland, but the fact is that in the six years since 9/11, there have been several major attacks (Madrid, London) and foiled plots in Europe. In the United States, there have been no major attacks and, as far as we know, just a few averted conspiracies. All the evidence suggests that American Muslims are better integrated than those in Western Europe. Last week’s arrest of a group apparently planning a 9/11 anniversary attack in Germany suggests that the threat to the heimat is greater than that to the U.S. homeland.

An invisible front line runs through the quiet streets of many a European city or town where there is a significant Muslim population. Whether you live in London or Oxford, Berlin or Neu-Ulm, Madrid or Rotterdam, you are on that front line — much more than you ever were during the Cold War. This struggle is partly about intelligence and police work to prevent those who have already become fanatical, violent jihadists from blowing us up at St. Pancras or the Gare du Nord. Ordinary non-Muslim Europeans can only do a little to help this work, as well as worrying about the curtailment of civil liberties. Ordinary, peaceful, law-abiding Muslim Europeans can do a little more.

The complete article from the Los Angeles Times “Battleground Europe”

New York Times Review of A Farewell to Alms

The New York Times reviews a forthcoming book by economic historian Gregory Clark, A Farewell to Alms, which presents new evidence and a novel argument for why the industrial revolution occurred when it did. The review places Clark squarely in the camp of historians who see a fundamental change occurring around 1800, although there have been others who have argued for an earlier or for a later “start date” to the Industrial Revolution.

I gather from the review that Clark’s argument hinges on a change in behavioral attitudes and the widespread adoption of “capitalist values” (or at least the values and attitudes necessary for a capitalist economy). The novelty in Clark’s work, apart from the considerable amount of new source material he has uncovered, is the part of his argument that suggests that the values necessary for capitalism could have been transmitted genetically.

For thousands of years, most people on earth lived in abject poverty, first as hunters and gatherers, then as peasants or laborers. But with the Industrial Revolution, some societies traded this ancient poverty for amazing affluence.

Historians and economists have long struggled to understand how this transition occurred and why it took place only in some countries. A scholar who has spent the last 20 years scanning medieval English archives has now emerged with startling answers for both questions.

Gregory Clark, an economic historian at the University of California, Davis, believes that the Industrial Revolution — the surge in economic growth that occurred first in England around 1800 — occurred because of a change in the nature of the human population. The change was one in which people gradually developed the strange new behaviors required to make a modern economy work. The middle-class values of nonviolence, literacy, long working hours and a willingness to save emerged only recently in human history, Dr. Clark argues.

Because they grew more common in the centuries before 1800, whether by cultural transmission or evolutionary adaptation, the English population at last became productive enough to escape from poverty, followed quickly by other countries with the same long agrarian past.

Dr. Clark’s ideas have been circulating in articles and manuscripts for several years and are to be published as a book next month, ‘A Farewell to Alms’ (Princeton University Press). Economic historians have high praise for his thesis, though many disagree with parts of it.

The final part of the review quotes several other prominent economic historians, including Kenneth Pomerantz, whose book The Great Divergence I am currently reading, and Robert P. Brenner, whose series of articles in Past and Present from the late 1970s and 1980s are basically “required reading” for any British or European historian. Both Pomerantz and Brenner are somewhat critical of Clark’s argument.

Dr. Clark says the middle-class values needed for productivity could have been transmitted either culturally or genetically. But in some passages, he seems to lean toward evolution as the explanation. “Through the long agrarian passage leading up to the Industrial Revolution, man was becoming biologically more adapted to the modern economic world,” he writes. And, “The triumph of capitalism in the modern world thus may lie as much in our genes as in ideology or rationality.”

What was being inherited, in his view, was not greater intelligence — being a hunter in a foraging society requires considerably greater skill than the repetitive actions of an agricultural laborer. Rather, it was “a repertoire of skills and dispositions that were very different from those of the pre-agrarian world.”

Reaction to Dr. Clark’s thesis from other economic historians seems largely favorable, although few agree with all of it, and many are skeptical of the most novel part, his suggestion that evolutionary change is a factor to be considered in history.

Historians used to accept changes in people’s behavior as an explanation for economic events, like Max Weber’s thesis linking the rise of capitalism with Protestantism. But most have now swung to the economists’ view that all people are alike and will respond in the same way to the same incentives. Hence they seek to explain events like the Industrial Revolution in terms of changes in institutions, not people.

Dr. Clark’s view is that institutions and incentives have been much the same all along and explain very little, which is why there is so little agreement on the causes of the Industrial Revolution. In saying the answer lies in people’s behavior, he is asking his fellow economic historians to revert to a type of explanation they had mostly abandoned and in addition is evoking an idea that historians seldom consider as an explanatory variable, that of evolution.

Most historians have assumed that evolutionary change is too gradual to have affected human populations in the historical period. But geneticists, with information from the human genome now at their disposal, have begun to detect ever more recent instances of human evolutionary change like the spread of lactose tolerance in cattle-raising people of northern Europe just 5,000 years ago. A study in the current American Journal of Human Genetics finds evidence of natural selection at work in the population of Puerto Rico since 1513. So historians are likely to be more enthusiastic about the medieval economic data and elaborate time series that Dr. Clark has reconstructed than about his suggestion that people adapted to the Malthusian constraints of an agrarian society.

“He deserves kudos for assembling all this data,” said Dr. Hoffman, the Caltech historian, “but I don’t agree with his underlying argument.”

The decline in English interest rates, for example, could have been caused by the state’s providing better domestic security and enforcing property rights, Dr. Hoffman said, not by a change in people’s willingness to save, as Dr. Clark asserts.

The natural-selection part of Dr. Clark’s argument “is significantly weaker, and maybe just not necessary, if you can trace the changes in the institutions,” said Kenneth L. Pomeranz, a historian at the University of California, Irvine. In a recent book, “The Great Divergence,” Dr. Pomeranz argues that tapping new sources of energy like coal and bringing new land into cultivation, as in the North American colonies, were the productivity advances that pushed the old agrarian economies out of their Malthusian constraints.

Robert P. Brenner, a historian at the University of California, Los Angeles, said although there was no satisfactory explanation at present for why economic growth took off in Europe around 1800, he believed that institutional explanations would provide the answer and that Dr. Clark’s idea of genes for capitalist behavior was “quite a speculative leap.”

Dr. Bowles, the Santa Fe economist, said he was “not averse to the idea” that genetic transmission of capitalist values is important, but that the evidence for it was not yet there. “It’s just that we don’t have any idea what it is, and everything we look at ends up being awfully small,” he said. Tests of most social behaviors show they are very weakly heritable.

He also took issue with Dr. Clark’s suggestion that the unwillingness to postpone consumption, called time preference by economists, had changed in people over the centuries. “If I were as poor as the people who take out payday loans, I might also have a high time preference,” he said.

Dr. Clark said he set out to write his book 12 years ago on discovering that his undergraduates knew nothing about the history of Europe. His colleagues have been surprised by its conclusions but also interested in them, he said.

“The actual data underlying this stuff is hard to dispute,” Dr. Clark said. “When people see the logic, they say ‘I don’t necessarily believe it, but it’s hard to dismiss.’ ”

The complete review from The New York Times:

Portugal’s Relationship with the EU

Portugal’s assumption of the European Union Presidency prompts The International Herald Tribune to write about the country’s relationship with Europe.

Although I’ve only been here a short while, and I’ve just seen most of the tourist attractions and historical sights in Lisbon and Porto, one of the observations I’ve made about the country is that it seems much more comfortable with its history of exploration and overseas empire than other European nations. The article explains some of the reasons why this could be the case, as well as why Portugal in some ways is more attached to its former colonies than it is to the EU.

In this old and nostalgic capital, filled with grand monuments to the navigators who helped create Europe’s first overseas empire in the 15th century, one begins to understand why the Portuguese have never completely learned to love the latter-day empire of sorts known as the European Union.

On the surface, it would seem natural that Portugal, a small country of 10.6 million people that shed an authoritarian regime, would have an instinctive affinity for the EU. The Union has been an anchor of democracy since the revolution that overthrew the dictatorship here in 1974. It has pumped nearly 50 billion euros into Portugal’s economy since the country joined the EU in 1986 and helps it to have influence beyond its size on the world stage.

Yet Portugal has an ambivalent relationship with the bloc of 480 million people it will now lead as EU president for the next six months. It is sometimes said here that Europe was the last continent to be discovered by the Portuguese.

‘We were the first European country to have an empire and the last one to give it up,’ said Jaime Nogueira Pinto, a biographer of Antonio de Oliveira Salazar, the dictator who ruled Portugal for nearly 50 years. ‘So the Portuguese, more than most, are sensitive about losing our national identity.’

The complete article from The International Herald Tribune: “Portuguese resent EU as they take its helm”

On Course Pimping

On The Chronicle of Higher Education website I read the article by Professor Rob Jenkins (Chronicle Careers: 7/11/2007: Pimp My Course) about his decision to “pimp” his course by incorporating more technology. Professor Jenkins was motivated to do this because:

The truth is, as far as today’s students are concerned, I’m not a ‘young’ professor anymore and haven’t been for at least a decade. Nor am I particularly hip or cool. Most days I don’t even wear jeans in the classroom, 12 years of administrative duties having decimated my graduate-school wardrobe.

Worst of all, I’m hardly ‘cutting edge.’ To be honest, I’m doing pretty much the same things in class I was doing 20 years ago. For Pete’s sake, I still illustrate some of my favorite points by using anecdotes from MASH, that favorite sitcom of my generation that few of my current students have ever heard of, much less watched.

Clearly it’s time for a major teaching makeover, in the spirit of TLC’s Trading Spaces or better yet MTV’s Pimp My Ride, in which cast members take old cars and update them with new paint jobs, ground effects, stereo systems, and so forth. In the end, the cars may be only marginally more functional, but they sure look a lot cooler.

Resolving to ‘pimp my course,’ then, I went straight to the experts, colleagues who really are cutting edge. Under their tutelage, the first thing I learned is that I definitely need to use the computer a lot more during class. And I don’t mean just to check my e-mail while the students are writing essays.

My immediate reaction upon reading those paragraphs was to feel like a professor who correctly references the television programs “Trading Spaces” and “Pimp My Ride” was really much more “cutting edge” than he claimed. :) Nevertheless, reading about Professor Jenkins’ experience made me think about the entire concept of pimping a course.

I’m still slightly on the outside looking into the whole process considering that I’m still a graduate student who’s never had complete responsibility for a course. I have, however, been a pimp for an undergraduate course taught by a professor of mine, of which I will be the head Graduate Student Instructor in the fall. Several semesters ago I presented the idea of podcasting the introductory European history course to Professor Laqueur. I’ve also helped him move from slide carrousels (which he used when I took the course from him as an undergraduate in the spring of 2000) to digitized images and slides using Microsoft PowerPoint first and now Apple’s Keynote software.

In preparing for the fall semester, I thought it would be neat to have a short video (”YouTube-esque”) to introduce the course to prospective students and I found a very talented undergraduate to put it together for the class. The video is available on the History Department website homepage: http://history.berkeley.edu.

On one level, none of this is really necessary. Professor Laqueur is an immensely talented lecturer who engages his students even in a large lecture class regardless of the technology he incorporates. The course fulfills a number of requirements, for the undergraduate history major and for the College of Letters and Sciences, so enrollments are usually near capacity.

On the other hand, I find it increasingly hard to imagine this course *without* all the technology incorporated. The use of digital images in Keynote for the lectures was about more than beautification. Professor Laqueur started several years ago using images that were essentially the same as the ones he had used in physical slides (mostly because one of my jobs as an undergraduate was to scan the physical slides). Each semester that goes by he’s added and/or replaced some images resulting in almost all of the images shown in class being visually stunning. The technology makes it very simple for him to zoom in on particular aspects of an image that he wants the students to notice. Of course, art historians did this sort of thing with multiple carrousels and a tremendous amount of preparation before, but computers make it so much easier.

The podcasts, too, seem to enhance his teaching as well as students’ comprehension. Students sitting in class are more likely to sit back and pay attention to the lecture, rather than feeling as though they have to take down every fact and detail for a possible exam, when they know that there is an audio recording at their fingertips when they need it to review material. Most students in past semesters’ of podcasting have listened to lectures in addition to, not in place of, attending them. Of course, this is not always true, and some students undoubtedly feel like the podcasts make it easy for them to miss lectures without consequences. In a class like this one, though, there is no way to escape the weekly discussion section led by a GSI which is the place where attendance and participation are recorded as a part of the final grade.

Ultimately, my point is that all of the “pimping” I’ve been a part of for this course has, I think, served to enhance the teaching and the overall experience for the students. It seems to me that this is what technology is supposed to do, that is, be a useful tool to enhance rather than replace strong teaching and interesting lecture content.

Hopefully Professor Jenkins will have an equally positive experience with course pimping. My experience is that the fact that he is thinking about these things and actively trying to figure out which will work best and/or be useful and helpful for his students already puts him in a category ahead of many of his colleagues. Not to mention the fact that he’s familiar with MTV and TLC programs!

British Constitutional Reform Proposals

The new British Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, is planned some fairly dramatic overhauling of the constitution. Two of the rumored items stand out the most: the change in the Prime Minister’s power to declare war and the creation of a British Bill of Rights. The article makes no mention of what the process would be for declaring war. It would certainly be interesting if this power was given back to the sovereign, but most likely it would end up requiring a full Parliamentary vote.

Gordon Brown will this week propose surrendering historic powers delegated to previous prime ministers by the monarch as part of a wide-ranging programme of constitutional reform.

The reforms are expected to involve Mr Brown giving up royal prerogatives traditionally exercised by the prime minister, such as the power to declare war without parliamentary approval or to appoint bishops to the Church of England.

If that is the case, it becomes something of a distinction without much of a difference, because presumably the Prime Minister has the confidence of the majority in the House of Commons, and if s/he proposed a declaration of war, it is likely that a majority would de-facto agree. Of course this became a bit more complication with the Iraq war when growing number of Labour MPs disagreed with Prime Minister Blair’s decision to go to war and to continue the war. It seems like Brown’s move would be more designed to signal his own MPs that he learned a lesson from Blair’s Iraq experience.

The article also suggests that Brown is considering a Bill of Rights:

The House of Commons will be given new powers, including the right for MPs to recall Parliament during a recess if there is a national emergency, to hold American-style confirmation hearings for appointees to key public posts and to ratify international treaties.

In the longer term, Mr Brown is considering a British Bill of Rights, enshrining the civil liberties of citizens currently set out in the Human Rights Act and European Convention on Human Rights, to give a greater sense of what it means to be a British citizen.

Without yet knowing the details of the proposal it is difficult to think about what consequences this might have for Britain. But, it would certainly be historic, considering how Britain has never had an official, inviolable Bill of Rights before. It will be interesting to see how such a document is crafted and what procedures are implemented for amending it (a Parliamentary super-majority? nationwide referendum? etc.)

Although the article frames it as an issue of British citizenship and defining the legal meaning of British-ness, there is also the suggestion of the link with the European human rights conventions. With this Bill of Rights, Brown might be trying to pre-empt some of the remaining differences between British laws and EU ones by crafting a document that nullifies a bunch of other laws that might contradict EU regulations.

A lot of speculation on my part, but it seems that there is more than just legal reforms going on here. It will be interesting to see what proposals Brown eventually puts forward as well as how they are received in Britain.

The complete article from The Daily Telegraph: “Brown gives up the power to declare war”

License to Kilt?

Men who wear kilts in Great Britain may soon by subject to new legal regulations designed to protect endangered animals whose fur is frequently used for the “sporran” piece.

The BBC reports:

Kilt wearers could face prosecution if they do not have a licence for their sporran under new legislation which has been introduced in Scotland.

The laws are designed to protect endangered species like badgers and otters, whose fur used to be favoured by sporran makers.

The legislation applies to animals killed after 1994.

Applicants must prove that the animal was killed lawfully before they will be able to get a licence.

The conservation regulations were designed to close a number of loopholes and bring Scotland into line with other EU members.

It’s interesting that the law will require an individual to prove affirmatively that an animal was killed lawfully, rather than placing the burden of regulation on sellers of the items or manufacturers.

It also seems like the law would be difficult to enforce.

Still, what is most noteworthy to me about this story is the way that things associated with “tradition” in the United Kingdom (whether they actually represent a “real” cultural tradition is another point entirely) are being chipped away. Although the UK clings strongly to many particular traditions that are not in line with the EU (most notably retaining its currency), there is a general attempt, of which this story is one specific example, to comply with ever more rules and regulations originating in Europe.

The complete story from BBC News: “Sporran wearers may need licence”

Europe’s Constitution and its Historical Conflicts

The recent debate about a new charter for the European Union, which would serve as its de-facto “constitution” reveals not only how relative tenuous some of the group’s ties remain but also how many of the present day political struggles are rooted in history.

Paralleling some of the debates during the American Constitutional Convention, Poland had opposed the new agreement, mostly because it would allocate votes based on population which would give other nations greater representation. According to The New York Times, Poland’s objection was based on more than simply an ideal of fair play and equal representation.

Warsaw shocked its European Union colleagues by invoking Nazi Germany at the meeting and arguing that it deserved political compensation for its losses in World War II.

Prime Minister Jaroslaw Kaczynski of Poland argued, “If Poland had not had to live through the years of 1939-45, Poland would today be looking at the demographics of a country of 66 million.” The Polish delegation even brought a team of 10 mathematicians to Brussels to ensure that it was not duped into agreeing to an unfavorable voting system.

Disputes like this remind me about the extent to which the memory of the Second World War looms in the present day political disputes in Europe. Despite the fall of the Berlin Wall and the end of the “divided Europe” there are still significant divisions in Europe that are based upon the war and its aftermath. Poland’s independence was twice restored, first from Nazi Germany in 1944-1945, and second from the Soviet Union in the 1980s, but the demographic consequences of the war are unavoidable.

In a similar way, scholars and journalists have noted how many, especially Eastern European, Jewish communities were simply obliterated by the Holocaust, to the extent that they have not come back even more than 50 years years.

This is not to say that the Second World War explains all disputes about the composition of the European Union, but rather to suggest that the political unity Europe currently is attempting to consecrate is very much a historical anachronism. Its success is still very much in doubt.

The article in The New York Times described another nation’s objections to the agreement. Although not related to the Second World War, they are based on a certain conception of the nation’s role in Europe. Britain had problems with the agreement because some of its language seemed to impinge its sovereignty:

Key obstacles to a new treaty began to fall away late Friday. Britain, which had also threatened a veto, accepted formation of a new office for foreign policy, withdrawing reservations over the plan after negotiators scrapped the title “foreign minister,” which offended London’s sensitivities about preserving its national sovereignty.

Britain won further changes, including guarantees that its employment and social security laws would not be affected by a European Union charter of rights and that it would not be outvoted on justice and home affairs questions.

These objections seem to fit with the traditional conception that the British have had of themselves: that the nation was both a part of Europe and apart from Europe. Traditional English rights and liberties are sacrosanct, and the British ability to preserve them in the fact of a united Europe shows the clout that the nation retains despite the loss of its Empire.

The final point of interest in the article is the claim at the end that the French President made about his unique ability to bring Poland toward the compromise solution.

Mr. Sarkozy said psychological and historical factors made relations between France and Poland less tense than relations between Poland and Germany.

Despite the tentative agreement, there are still numerous hurdles to final ratification and implementation of the treaty. Referendums will need to take place in all or almost all of the member nations, and Poland managed to press for delayed implementation of the proportional representation based on national population until 2014 at the earliest. I think it will be most interesting to see over the coming years whether the populations of these European countries are as able to overcome their collective memories of the past and of their national identities as their leaders seem at least temporarily to been able to achieve at the conference.

The complete story from The New York Times: “Leaders in Deal on Europe’s Charter”

Blair to Become Catholic?

A brief article in The Guardian suggests that Tony Blair will convert to Catholicism after he retires as Prime Minister. Apparently he used his last meeting with Pope to discuss matters relating to his personal conversion, among other things.

It is interesting to me how this story shows how Britain today is caught between its traditional staunchly Protestant identity and its contemporary relative indifference to religion. The newspaper coverage was very brief, suggesting a relatively unimportant, personal interest story in addition to something at present unconfirmed. Yet, that Blair (if, in fact, he is going to do this) feels compelled to wait until he relinquishes his office shows that it would be something of a “big deal” for a British leader to leave the Church of England.

Tony Blair yesterday used his last official foreign engagement before leaving office to tell Pope Benedict he wanted to become a Roman Catholic, a Vatican source said last night.

But, in talks lasting more than half an hour, the outgoing Prime Minister was left in no doubt that the Pope took a dim view of his record in office. A statement issued afterwards by the Vatican said there had been a frank exchange of views.

The complete article from The Guardian: “Blair tells Pope: Now Im ready to become a Catholic”